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Oh, so good to know, Demetria - always great to know I am not talking to myself here.

Thanks for coming by.

Ana

Ana also commented

  • I know you do, Mavis! :)
  • Glad I am keeping you busy, Ian! :)
  • That simply means those website didn’t have their URL set up properly, Lou. When they are set up correctly, then www or not, all links get redirected to the site.

    Ana

  • Believe it or not, I know you enough by now to know that you meant well, and that’s all that mattered to me. :)
  • You’re welcome, Jackie.

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Dennis Edell from Direct Sales Marketing dennisedell.com January 10, 2011 at 5:47 am

Ana, please consider raising the reply levels. ;-)

Thanks for “getting me”, I appreciate that.
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Mavis Nong from Free Marketing Training attractionmarketingonline.com January 9, 2011 at 4:37 pm

Hey Ana,

Thanks for sharing this great tip. It does help to have your links in one basket :)

All the best,
Mavis
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Ana trafficgenerationcafe.com January 9, 2011 at 6:50 pm

I know you do, Mavis! :)

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Ian Belanger ian-belanger.com January 9, 2011 at 10:48 am

Great post Ana, I had no idea this was even a problem. Thank you so much, now I have something to do today, right now actually!
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Ana trafficgenerationcafe.com January 9, 2011 at 6:50 pm

Glad I am keeping you busy, Ian! :)

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Lou Barba loubarba.blogspot.com January 9, 2011 at 8:15 am

Hi Ana,

This could be a postscript coming from left field. I have had several instances where links that were posted without the www became broken links. When I went back and added the www, it fixed the link.

Lou
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Ana trafficgenerationcafe.com January 9, 2011 at 6:49 pm

That simply means those website didn’t have their URL set up properly, Lou. When they are set up correctly, then www or not, all links get redirected to the site.

Ana

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Jackie Christiansen jackiechristiansenblog.com January 8, 2011 at 7:27 pm

Great Advice! Thanks for sharing this information!
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Ana trafficgenerationcafe.com January 8, 2011 at 10:05 pm

You’re welcome, Jackie.

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Linda G. Cox lindagraceonline.com January 8, 2011 at 9:02 am

Ana,
Thank you! I like the way you educate us in a very simple way! That is exactly what I needed!
Linda
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Ana trafficgenerationcafe.com January 8, 2011 at 10:04 pm

You are welcome, Linda - the only way I know how. :)

Ana

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John from Electricians in Paddington electriciansinpaddington.co.uk January 7, 2011 at 10:12 am

Ana! Your post is really informative and enlightening. http:// www dot sitename dot com and http:// sitename dot com is really bothering me, now I fully understand the difference between them. Thanks for letting me know.
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Ana trafficgenerationcafe.com January 7, 2011 at 12:23 pm

Good to know, John. :) I surprise myself sometimes.

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Dennis Edell from Direct Sales Marketing dennisedell.com January 7, 2011 at 6:58 am

Who knew it would become such a thing. When I first came online, 7-10yrs ago, my mentor that stated me blogging told me to do it.

I doubt canonicalization was even a word then.

I don’t recall doing any of the webmasters tool stuff, but when inputting it into the address bar, it’s redirected. :)
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Ana trafficgenerationcafe.com January 7, 2011 at 7:16 am

Small things, bit problems… Wow, Dennis, 10 years online? You are a veteran; most people give up after a year or two. :)

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Dennis Edell from Direct Sales Marketing dennisedell.com January 8, 2011 at 4:17 am

7 for sure, the first 3 of 2000 are a little hazy with personal illness issues.

The fact that it has been so long is actually a little embarrassing, but, if I do tell you not to do something, you’d be smart to listen…know what I mean? LOL
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Ana trafficgenerationcafe.com January 8, 2011 at 10:01 pm

Point taken, Dennis… You speak, I listen.

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Dennis Edell from Direct Sales Marketing dennisedell.com January 9, 2011 at 5:02 am

I just reread what I wrote…..wow did that not come out with the sarcastic humor I intended. lol
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Ana trafficgenerationcafe.com January 9, 2011 at 7:06 am

Believe it or not, I know you enough by now to know that you meant well, and that’s all that mattered to me. :)

Chris Dale marketinghq.com.au January 7, 2011 at 1:45 am

Thanks for this tip Ana. Canonicalization is one thing I do not get and your post helped me fix this with my website. I actually thought I had set this up before, but I checked it in Webmaster Tools after reading your post and - you guessed it, not verified - doh! Thanks again.

Chris
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Ana trafficgenerationcafe.com January 7, 2011 at 7:11 am

Thanks so much, Chris - it makes my day to know I actually helped someone.

Have a good one!

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Facebook Applications socialcubix.com January 6, 2011 at 9:17 pm

Hello Ana:
I think both website method are OK for Promotion.What you think Ana.Either you used HTTP or without HTTP but if u used HTTP website then google count only HTTP website back links not without HTTP website links

I thank Ana for reply my quries
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Ana trafficgenerationcafe.com January 7, 2011 at 7:14 am

Yes, either one is fine as long as you stick to it.

I think you meant to say WWW, not HTTP. Google will count links to both sites and combine them into one if your canonicalization is set up correctly, so you won’t ever loose a single link.

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Patricia from lavenderuses lavenderuses.com January 6, 2011 at 7:40 pm

Hi Ana

That’s why having super-geeks as friends is a life-saver or should I say blog-saver for me ;-) Great information that those who have to do all this themselves.

For some reason I was taught this when my blog was first being set up, but I’m sure there are heaps of bloggers out there who this is a revelation and a very helpful one at that!

Patricia Perth Australia
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Ana trafficgenerationcafe.com January 6, 2011 at 8:44 pm

Definitely yes to that, Patricia!

This was one of the first issues I somehow knew to fix as well; go figure…

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Tia bizchickblogs.com January 6, 2011 at 7:37 pm

Good stuff, Ana. If someone’s blog has been around, they should also do a permanent redirect from the non-www to the www (or the other way around).

The thing about setting it up the right way in Wordpress is crucial! Many one-click Wordpress installs don’t use the www, and people go for years without realizing that!

Cheers,
Tia
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Ana trafficgenerationcafe.com January 6, 2011 at 8:41 pm

So true, Tia - it’s always great to tie all the loose ends and make a permanent change.

Good to see you here!

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Demetria websuccesscoach.com January 6, 2011 at 6:26 pm

Your tutorial- PRICELESS! Thanks for this HUGE tip of advice. Ive been meaning to get more savvy with canonicalization and I had some major questions about what it is and how to even fix the whole “www.” vs. “site.com” issue. You’ve resolved it for me! Thanks a bunch.

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Ana trafficgenerationcafe.com January 6, 2011 at 8:40 pm

Oh, so good to know, Demetria - always great to know I am not talking to myself here.

Thanks for coming by.

Ana

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Alan Mater from Work From Home replaceyoursalary.com January 6, 2011 at 4:33 pm

Hi Ana,

After following step 1 and changing the Wordpress address URL, I’ve now been locked out of my Dashboard and can’t get in. Is this normal? Is there some way to fix this?

I don’t want to try anything else at this point until I can log back in and know that everything is back to normal. Your help would be appreciated.

Thanks!
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Ana trafficgenerationcafe.com January 7, 2011 at 7:22 am

Ayayay, Alan - so sorry to hear it happened and the worst part is I have no idea why; I’ve never heard of such a problem! I am also not technical enough to know how to fix it; if this were to happen to me, I’d call my host to see if they can fix it for me.

Please let me know how you were able to fix it!

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Alan Mater from Work From Home replaceyoursalary.com January 7, 2011 at 10:25 am

Hey Ana, I did a little research and figured out how to set it back by going into phpMyAdmin and changing the site URL back to what it was previously.

Now, I’m not sure where to go from here. Would following the steps you outline in the Google Webmaster account be enough? Should I still use a redirect plug-in or 301 redirect script?

Thanks for your help!
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Ana trafficgenerationcafe.com January 7, 2011 at 12:19 pm

Glad you fixed it, Alan; still have no idea why it happened.

I never bothered with changing .htaccess since I didn’t want to run any chances I’d screw it up in the process. So all I did was the 2 steps above.

However, if you know what you are doing, that’s definitely the way to go.

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Alan Mater from Work From Home replaceyoursalary.com January 7, 2011 at 8:32 pm

I’m wondering if anyone else ran into the problem I had?

I tried the 301 redirect route but that sent the blog into an infinite redirect loop. Not sure why, either. I’m not having much luck with this. LOL

In any case, I did set my desired display URL in my Google Webmaster’s account, so hopefully that will count for something.
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Ana trafficgenerationcafe.com January 8, 2011 at 10:03 pm

You know, now thinking about it, I did have problems with 301 redirect when trying to fix the same issue. It didn’t come from my blog though, rather my host server. It’s been a while, so I forgot all about it.

So far, I haven’t heard any problems reported, Alan.

Liz homenotion.com January 6, 2011 at 3:41 pm

Hi Ana,

This prompted me to look at my settings in general and I found a few things that were questionable, things I fixed of course ;-) Also I never really recognized the issue of the duplicate content issue. Suffice it to say, I’ve got it fixed now. Thanks so much Ana.
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Ana trafficgenerationcafe.com January 6, 2011 at 8:38 pm

You are so welcome, Liz.

I think the whole duplicated content issue deserves a post of its own; so many bloggers are so entirely confused on what it means…

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Alex from Jocuri jocurile.us January 6, 2011 at 3:23 pm

Well Ana, this indeed is a problem that many don’t fix and they are building links to www and the non-www version thus wasting some link juice and not to mention the duplicate content that they are creating but never notice because google onnly keeps a single version of duplicate pages.

I am fully “canonicalizated” with my .htaccess(good article from Chris Burns) redirect and with the help of the canonical html tag
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Ana trafficgenerationcafe.com January 6, 2011 at 8:37 pm

Glad to hear that, Alex - such a little problem can cause such big issues. :)

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technosuman technocian.com January 6, 2011 at 11:32 am

Well Ana! Really a great piece of information. I think I am convinced that we should indeed put our links in one basket.

For a beginner getting traffic through a blog or a website is not that easy. I hope your tip is really going to help us.

Thank your for this wonderful post
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Ana trafficgenerationcafe.com January 6, 2011 at 8:35 pm

I know they will, like they had so many other readers of my blog! :)

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Sheila Atwood from newbielifeline.com newbielifeline.com January 6, 2011 at 11:27 am

Ana,

I discovered I had a problem with this when I would comment on sites with Comment Luv. My site URL was www. and when I added my comments I left off the www. and my last post would not show up. Once I wrote the correct URL it worked.
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Ana trafficgenerationcafe.com January 6, 2011 at 3:05 pm

Never even thought about possible CommentLuv implication, Sheila - thanks for bringing it to my attention. Always good to know in case I get a question on it.

Ana

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Jared Holland metromarketingblog.com January 6, 2011 at 11:06 am

I’ve messed up in the past and not done this correctly. I made sure when I started this blog that I had it right. I’ve got all mine setup and as of today have 44 listings in Google results. I’ve been seeing a whole 3 people a day from search engines. Maybe one day I’ll convince them to stay on the page.
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Ana trafficgenerationcafe.com January 6, 2011 at 3:03 pm

Love your sense of humor; you’ve got to have it, then you might have a chance with your 3 visitors! :)

I ranked for hundreds of keywords, but most of them are pure junk of course.

So when someone says “I am on the first page of Google! “, I say oh yeah? what keyword would that be?

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Lou Barba loubarba.blogspot.com January 6, 2011 at 9:55 am

Hi Ana,

Do we have to go to a protestant or catholic church to get canonicalized?

This seems to be important for any website, because you want to make it easier for Google to index your pages and build your rank. If you’re showing two sites, I guess it would take twice as long to accomplish the same thing. I think you mentioned this a few months ago, and I started doing it then, even though I don’t have a Wordpress blog at this point. Some things are so simple, the rocket scientists can’t catch on.

Lou
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Ana trafficgenerationcafe.com January 6, 2011 at 10:59 am

Funny guy you are, Lou. :)

Glad to see someone’s listening to me!

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Heather C Stephens clevermarketer.com January 6, 2011 at 9:42 am

Unlike you and Dwayne…I was clueless until I met you, Ana! Thanks for explaining it so simply and clearly for me. I need to check into the google webmaster tools but when I type in my www, I get redirected to my non www, so I assume I’m somewhat on the right track.

Thanks for the help, as usual!
Heather
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Ana trafficgenerationcafe.com January 6, 2011 at 10:58 am

You must’ve set it correctly through your WP dashboard, Heather.

I did both just in case. :)

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Lisa thefriendlyblogger.com January 6, 2011 at 9:32 am

Ana:

Plain and simple…a lifesaver you are. I visit here everyday and I am running out of things to say to express my gratitude! This issue drove me nuts and I am so glad someone could explain it to me without all the “reflux capacitor” terms!

Lisa
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Ana trafficgenerationcafe.com January 6, 2011 at 10:56 am

You are great, Lisa - I would write great content even if you were my only reader; you build me up so much!

From a non-techie to a non-techie… that’s the whole point.

BTW, I wrote a post about your guest blogging question, will publish next week. :)

Thanks for the idea.

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Susan from Home Workouts workoutsforhome.com January 6, 2011 at 9:27 am

Ohhhhhh great tip! And one I actually have already done! Thanks for the reminder though, because I checked to make sure I was redirected just in case!
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Ana trafficgenerationcafe.com January 6, 2011 at 10:54 am

Yay - one less thing to do… Always great to know that you are actually ahead on something, huh? :)

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Donace from Hostgator Coupon thenexus.tk January 6, 2011 at 9:19 am

Yep it is a ‘Must do’. On a side note comment links also need to be canonicalized. The latest batch of SEO plugins do this for you and in the case of super comments in webmaster tools you can set the preference there though google figured it out on mine on its own with the help of a seo plugin.
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Ana trafficgenerationcafe.com January 6, 2011 at 10:54 am

Hey, Donace - not quite sure what issue you are referring to; would love more details.

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Donace from Hostgator Coupon thenexus.tk January 6, 2011 at 11:09 am

Using a example from a page I have open npw,

http://www.untwistedvortex.com/2011/01/02/attempt-consolidating-life-web/comment-page-1/#comment-40175

will still display the post
http://www.untwistedvortex.com/2011/01/02/attempt-consolidating-life-web

So you need a canonical to say that the comment(s) url is not the ‘primary’ one but the post is as the ‘content’ on both links will show the same material.

For example your above comment links is
https://trafficgenerationcafe.online/www-non-www/comment-page-1/?cid=18476

Though the canonical is being shown as
https://trafficgenerationcafe.online/www-non-www/

A SEO plugin in the background has ‘fixed’ that.

That was what I was getting at.
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Andy from FirstFound twitter.com January 6, 2011 at 8:31 am

Which is better though www or not www?
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Ana trafficgenerationcafe.com January 6, 2011 at 10:52 am

Absolutely no difference, Andy. I use www version because I think readers are more familiar with that format, but that’s it.

Your choice won’t affect your rankings as long as you make one.

Ana

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Ryan Biddulph cashwithatrueconscience.com January 6, 2011 at 8:29 am

Hi Ana,

A helpful step by step tutorial here.

Like yourself and Dwayne, I also did this for my blog early on. And yes, I had no clue how the heck or why the heck I did it. I just know that someone told me to. Good thing that person knew what they were talking about.

It pays to have all your links in one basket. I made the error of not following this process for one of my squeeze pages. I finally fixed it a few weeks back and noticed an instant rise in traffic, opt-ins and subscribers. We never know who types in the “www” and who doesn’t. Why not attract both crowds to your website by making this simple fix?

Thanks for sharing your insight Ana.

RB
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Ana trafficgenerationcafe.com January 6, 2011 at 10:51 am

Nail in the head, Ryan - it’s a simple fix and needs to be done, even if you don’t quite understand why. :)

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mark from personal brand icebluebanana.com January 6, 2011 at 8:25 am

This is one of those ‘little’ things that can be frustrating for people who do not have much technical experience. Another part of this is to set up 301 redirect. There are a couple of wordpress plugins that will also do this for you, or someone can google “set up 301 redirect” for directions.

I definitely recommend testing to see if your url with and without the ‘www’ take you to the same page. If so, it is beneficial to fix it.

Great tip!
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Ana trafficgenerationcafe.com January 6, 2011 at 10:49 am

I found it that many bloggers have never heard of the issue, Mark, and definitely have it on their blogs.

One way or another, it’s an easy thing to fix and needs to be done.

Have a great day!

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Tommy DiPietro | MLM Sales tommydipietro.com January 6, 2011 at 8:19 am

Hi Ana,

Many people are confused with this subject.

I use the Redirection plugin for my blog address, so regardless of how someone types it in, I am not losing traffic.

Tommy
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Ana trafficgenerationcafe.com January 6, 2011 at 10:48 am

Actually, you are the one who inspired the post, Tommy. :)

I saw it on your blog as I did the audit, so you definitely need to fix it. It’s not about your traffic; it’s about your links. Redirection plugin does nothing to fix the issue.

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Tommy DiPietro | MLM Sales tommydipietro.com January 6, 2011 at 6:18 pm

I see what you mean.

Thanks.

I went back and fixed it both in Wordpress and in webmaster tools. I also had to change things up in analytics.

It was all be good to go!

Tommy D.
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Chris Burns searchengineoptimizationx.com January 6, 2011 at 7:43 am

I’ve written in more detail about this topic that may be useful to your readers. They can learn how to use .htaccess to make their sites www vs non and also to ensure a trailing slash on all URL’s regardless of if they are on Wordpress, Joomla, or any other platform.

http://www.searchengineoptimizationx.com/how-to-make-site-conanical-friendly/
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Ana trafficgenerationcafe.com January 6, 2011 at 10:37 am

Added your post to mine, Chris; I am sure my readers will benefit from it, like I did.

Thanks!

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Brankica from Live Your Love live-your-love.com January 6, 2011 at 6:56 am

I was thinking about this after reading a post somewhere.
When I registered my blog, I included it in my Webmaster tools and after a few days I got a message fro Google saying something like: “we have found this blog too, do you want to claim it”, and it was the other version (one was www one was no-www).
As far as I see, I get the data in only one of the blogs there but I will do the thing you suggested since I am sure it will benefit me.
Thanks, Ana and can’t wait for Sunday and coffee with you and all of these great bloggers :)
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Ana trafficgenerationcafe.com January 6, 2011 at 7:15 am

Definitely do it, Brankica - easy and needs to be done only once.

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Dwayne Huggins from How To Make Money Blogging dwaynehuggins.com January 6, 2011 at 6:10 am

Hey Ana

This was strangely one of the first things i did with my blog. I have know idea who advised me to chose one or the other, but I did and haven’t looked back since.

It is crazy this little issue can really throw a spanner in a blog link building plan.

Chat soon
Dwayne
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Ana trafficgenerationcafe.com January 6, 2011 at 7:14 am

Actually, it was the same for me, Dwayne. :)

Back when I knew nothing about blogging, I knew to do this one right!

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