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“some thought?”
I see smoke coming out of your head, Don, and mine as well just thinking about it.
Sounds complicated, but hey, in our day and age…
I think Prelovac could’ve done a better job at it had he made it a paid plugin. I think I would pay for it, considering the benefits. Alas….
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- You should see my to-do list, Dean.
Glad you took up my advice; there’s plenty more where that came from - as you saw.
- I see you haven’t turned SEO Super Comments back on, Kim - out of curiosity, why not?
- What happens is SEO Super Comments doesn’t differentiate between the name and the keyword and treats it all as one link. It’s as if you don’t have the plugin doesn’t exist.
I kept it for a while because I thought the comments looked cleaner with first names, but my readers thought it was misleading.
Thus, I took it off.
- Hi, Kim - I did use it in the past, but after some discussions with my readers, I decided to forgo it since it doesn’t really do what it’s supposed to do because of SEO Super Comments.
- Good point. However, I am not planning of getting rid of anything.
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Love the formatting, love the excitement, love it that you take time to comment, Melanie!Great for networking, great for link building…
5 in 500? Sounds about right…
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I wrote a post that talks about this strategy in more details; you can find it here, Maria:
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It has been a quiet Monday for me, Mavis - I am wondering if my readers still like me… - Title Pleaser: Kill Two Birds with One Stone
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Sheesh, Ana, you create so much work for me….!!
After reading several more posts here, I have now got rid of DisQus in favour of CommentLuv, looks like more work later for KeywordLuv + Super SEO watsit-thingy + making sure ‘Do Follow’ is all set correctly….
Great stuff, as usual!
You should see my to-do list, Dean.
Glad you took up my advice; there’s plenty more where that came from - as you saw.
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I can only begin to imagine that To Do list, based on your prolific output here!
I am working my way through your tips and advice, many weeks of work left I suspect! Thanks!
Hi Ana I am happy I’ve found your site. Excellent strategy. We have so much to learn here. Always looking to improve my blog.
Would like to thank you for sharing your blog with us.
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Ana did you remove keywordluv or were you not using it originally?
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Hi, Kim - I did use it in the past, but after some discussions with my readers, I decided to forgo it since it doesn’t really do what it’s supposed to do because of SEO Super Comments.
Okay since its not enabled for me to see whats going on, I’m going to try to do a speculation (without roaming over to my blog to enable it all long enough to check). Keywordluv turns the keywords into the link itself. Then supercomments makes the link go to the sub-page. The subpage displays the comment with a link to the correct destination page …. but it sounds like you’re saying there is an issue with the anchor text on that page. Is that what’s happening? If so, is this something that looks relatively like a simple fix? If so I’ll get a friend who’s a coder involved.
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What happens is SEO Super Comments doesn’t differentiate between the name and the keyword and treats it all as one link. It’s as if you don’t have the plugin doesn’t exist.
I kept it for a while because I thought the comments looked cleaner with first names, but my readers thought it was misleading.
Thus, I took it off.
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I see you haven’t turned SEO Super Comments back on, Kim - out of curiosity, why not?
I think that having dofollow for the comments it will be more benefice for every one. Also to not be penalized by google I think that a closer moderation is needed. What also I like to do is to have a top dofollow commenter widget to reword my top commentators.
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I do have the widget in my footer.
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Hey Ana,
Thank you so much for shedding some light on this subject. Great to see you have removed Keyword Luv as it’s not really applicable here.
I have just linked to this post today
All the best,
Mavis
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That was a good suggestion by Alex - you are right, it was silly to have it.
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If you are using Yoast WordPress SEO then there is no way to remove canonical URL
I am using this plugin and I can’t leave it
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And my non-standard WordPress pages are indexed by Google so I think removing rel canonical rel tag is not necessary
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Never used that plugin; have no idea.
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Hello Ana,
I don’t really have have any opinion about the super seo comments, it’s a great plugin both for the blogger and the commenter in my view, but I see an other problem with it. I don’t know if it was the same plugin but some websites have the new pages created with the comment at the top then the article all over again.
This pages would then be filtered by search engines as duplicates, if I am not mistaken you plugin was doing it in the same way, but I see that now it’s only showing the comment.
Oh, and having people promote their pages it’s a brilliant idea, both for them and especially for you, imagine having only 10% of your commenters promoting their pages
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Also, I don’t think that the lack of PR is caused by the amount of outgoing links, there are some other motives that google hasn’t yet given you some PR love. If outgoing links would be such a hassle in your battle to get a higher PR then I think web directories would be doomed to have PR0 for life.
Google, has some strange algorithms to say the least, because I have an website with something around 10 millions inbound link (they are not crappy, although the majority come from sitewide exchanges) and the website is PR2. And someone with over 1000 links which ranged between PR0 and PR2 has the same PR.
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I am still and planning to remain a DOFOLLOW blog - Good on you! My Philosophy Blog is dofollow and I intend to keep it that way.
Then I read the rest of the post. If you are going to link to another internal page, before users get to visit the persons actually site, why bother? I dislike the idea of that plugin, but that is my opinion and you are most welcome to disagree
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Thanks, Christopher - I think I just might disagree.
When you run as busy of a blog as I do, then you might change your outlook on DoFollow altogether.
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All these articles have given me a whole ‘nother idea. Good for all parties yet possibly little more work for readers…I’ll implement soon.
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Hi Ana. Been following on the SEO Super Comments pugin and although I can see the benefits of it, I have one question to ask, if I may. Say for some reason I decide to uninstall the plugin, what do you think will happen with all those indexed pages? Will uninstalling it hurt my website in the long run? Thanks
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Not only our blogs, but what happens to everyone’s comments?
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The comments will not be affected in any way; the links will just reconnect to the name/keyword.
In theory, the indexed comment pages will disappear of course, which will basically make your site smaller. You will lose any rankings for those pages, if you had any.
But it won’t affect your site in any major way - my best educated guess.
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It’s not for me, that’s definitely something I’d need more then a guess on.
My commenters, not to mention my blog itself is far too important to me to wager on, just in case I wanted to delete a simple plugin.
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Good point. However, I am not planning of getting rid of anything.
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Good to know.
Btw, in regards to keeping the KWL plugin even though it is rendered useless…I kinda liked your point of view..keeping it for the sole purpose of commenters separating name from kw.
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I can verify from personal experience that the comments are not lost. It’s actually not affecting them in the database, just at the output level. I used SEO Super Comments until I ran into the bug that Ana has now figured out how to solve. There was no hiccup in removing it and I look forward to reinstalling it.
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Yeah, it’s one of the valuable info about follow links or no follow links. It helps me a lot, thanks a lot for sharing your ideas on here, Ana.
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Hi Ana, I am DoFollow for life! lol, I am working on a list of DoFollow blogs on FB page, I am going to add you : )
Looks like your page is brand new, Karla - all the best with it!
Ana - It seems likely that you came through Thursday’s Google “Farmer Update” changes to their algorithm with flying colors because you have really good link diversity. Some of the links to TGC may have been devalued, but you have developed so many links to your site from so many diverse sources that no single change to the Google algorithm is likely to impact TGC too significantly.
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I’ve been too busy writing posts for this blog - never ending job, so I missed the update.
Off to your blog to educate myself.
Thanks, Randy!
You’re too busy indeed, Ana. I don’t see you around anymore
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Very informative post but removing rel=”canonical” tag from your post will make severe internal duplicate content issues and your ranking may drop. please don’t remove rel=”canonical” tag.
Hi, Nick - I am just going to copy and paste a part of my guest post on duplicate content issues, which goes to the heart of your statement:
“Here’s a quote by Susan Moskwa, Webmaster Trends Analyst from Google:
A lot of people think that if they have duplicate content that they’ll be penalized. In most cases, Google does not penalize sites for accidental duplication. Many, many, many sites have duplicate content.
Google may penalize sites for deliberate or manipulative duplication. For example: auto generated content, link networks or similar tactics designed to be manipulative.”
Susan further explained when webmasters should not worry about duplicate content:
• Common, minimal duplication.
• When you think the benefit outweighs potential ranking concerns. Consider your cost of fixing the duplicate content situation vs. the benefit you would receive.
• Remember: duplication is common and search engines can handle it.
How exactly does Google handle it?
While pulling up the search results, Google will basically collapse the duplicates leaving only the most relevant, in their opinion of course, page in the SERPs for that specific query. As I explained before, the way Google determines the most relevant result is based upon a myriad of factors and the only thing you can do for your part is to always link back to your original post.”
Great post and a very interesting plugin.
I tend to agree with Alex, mostly because it’s misleading. If you use KeywordLuv, people have an expectation about what that means. Since it’s been modified and does NOT do what it’s written to do, I think it would be better if its not there.
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Hi Ana,
Wow, what an interesting post. Technically speaking this stuff is way over my head but once I do start to understand it then I can also share these tips with my readers as well.
Thank you so much for this post Ana and for once again, teaching me something new. I know this will benefit me from this day forward and I’ll be more than happy to spread the word about your post as well. You definitely deserve all the credit.
Best to you,
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You are very welcome, Adrienne; thanks for coming by!
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Awesome stuff, Ana!
Is any of your followers able to help me move to Wordpress without loosing link structure and page rank?
I’d like to be able to have this freedom with design and plugins as you do here. Also I wanna experiment with dofollow comments.
Thanks!
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Lisa at TheFriendlyBlogger.com just did it - she’s not a techie, but a bright one; she might be able to give you some pointers, Constantin.
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Thanks for the reply, Ana! I’ll get in touch with Lisa.
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Very cool post (thanks for all the links :p I am proud of those 2 posts !). I dod figure out it was down to the canonical links and did try a function.php fix. Ended up crashing my site :S
So I filed it away for my theme update, was hoping you found a different fix :p
In regards to the plugin I do think its a great one; It has one small flaw though imo, the dynamic pages, as they show X number of comments not all of them and the ‘url’ changes for each comment.
In my ‘perfect’ scenario CommenterA gets his/her own page, unique to him or her created based on their email add (which needs verification manual or automated via email link first time round) and keyword combination, to create a unique url such as ‘site.tld/John|Keyword’. Then every new comment by them is added to the top of the respective page akin to SSC.
That way we get super targeted page (that interlinks with ‘Johns’ other comments) that minus actual url structure is fairly powerful SEO wise and therefore (as shown by the link in your post to mine) is a VERY powerful base for a link.
The downside of this approach is the number of pages created for commenter would be huge. A remedy would be have no link for a ‘flyby’ commenter and for a regular (10+comments etc) THEN they get a page made for them. This should reduce the number of pages by a percentage.
The other downside is that these pages are fairly ‘thin’ content wise (akin to content farm?); and while the pages are a ‘seo’ benefit for the commenter the traffic they bring to their ‘created’ pages would untargeted almost as the comments made by the commenter on different posts will be of different topics.
To combat this; the page could be ‘padded’ by having Gravtar image on this page (akin to forum profile page) and other ‘metrics’ like total comments made or some JS trickery that expands to the full conversation around that comment. (JS so not to ‘dilute’ the power of the page).
As you can see i’ve given it some thought and have been planning to perhaps get it commissioned, though my SEO knowledge is not whole and the technical expertise needed to do this is no where near up to scratch.
Please chime in if you see holes in my SEO theory or otherwise
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“some thought?”
I see smoke coming out of your head, Don, and mine as well just thinking about it.
Sounds complicated, but hey, in our day and age…
I think Prelovac could’ve done a better job at it had he made it a paid plugin. I think I would pay for it, considering the benefits. Alas….
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haha no smoke; I get random tangent thoughts like these a lot …my undoing and my greatest asset!
My late 2 / 3rd quarter goal is get a plugin made to sell, this maybe the one.
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Today has been a do follow, no follow, back link and PR day for my blog reading and commenting. I read Alex’s guest post here, and then I read his blog and read why he lost PR and commented on both the articles - his guest post here and his own blog.
I likened PR to Base Metabolic Rate when I commented on his blog and opined that finally PR may make sense after all.
Now after reading your article on SEO Super comment plugin and more do follow links etc, I decided to do some research on my own and my findings have left me amazed and more CONFUSED. Let me elaborate:
1. You blog has 4085 back links - as per the back link checker I used and yet it is PR 0. Alex’s site has 4385 back links as per the same checker and till just a month back it had PR 2 as per him. So 4085 back links = PR 0 and just another 300 back links = PR 2?
2. I have some other sites as well - my business and a few other blogs. The business site has only 54 back links and has PR 1 and one of the blogs has 84 Back Links and is PR 2!! I am not complaining but find it amazing. What is even more amazing is the fact that majority of the back links are from my own sites!! So maybe the niche or the site type is also a big factor - what I mean is that maybe with very few back links also a site could have higher PR if there are not too many sites in that category?
3. I did a google search on the keyword “traffic generation” and found TGC on 8th spot. It has a PR 0. On the 9th spot is sourceforge.net/projects/traffic/. And its PR is 4!! So does it also mean that you could have lower PR and yet show higher is SERP? In that case what is the fight about PR.? Back Links? etc.
4. There are innumerable sites with very high PRs but abysmal alexa ranks - that is low traffic.
I am in India and it is midnight. I think I am going to sleep over my dilemma about these issues and decide tomorrow what is more important for me - higher PR or traffic. I suspect I know the answer, but as I said, let me sleep over it!
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Here are some pointers, Sanjeev:
1. It’s not about backlinks. Alex’s blog is older than mine; that’s why he has RP and I don’t.
2. You are absolutely right about what kind of niche you are in. The more competitive the niche, the more you have to work to rank. Of course, you understand that just quantity of links is not what determines your ranking.
3. PR has been downgraded significantly as a ranking factor. That’s why you’ll see PR2 ranking higher than PR4.
4. High PR won’t bring you sales - traffic will! Focus on that and forget all about PR.
Good night!
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Thx so much, Ana. You have a way of making disparate parts make sense. I appreciate the way you present the problem, give a solution and then explain the why of the solution. Enjoy your walk. Aloha. Janet
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Ana:
Well thought out solution, as usual. I may have to look into this. No, I think I will do it.
Been a rough few days trying to figure out the best route to take with my blog!
Lisa
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I am still working on mine… route that is…
I need to work around the clock to get anything done around here!
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For good PR of site links from blog commenting is might and main. By doing so you can raise the PR of your site from zero to four.
Ana,
Thank you, this totally makes sense. I can attest to getting noticed for my comments on your site even though the links went to an internal page.
When I first noticed that the links were not going directly to my blog I started to monitor what was happening. Every time I comment I get a Google alert regarding that comment the same day I commented.
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In my theory, you are getting even more noticed that way, since readers can see even more of what you had to say and check out your blog.
The more comments you make, the more links will point to your “custom” page on my blog, the more authority it will have.
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I cannot say that I “do follow” all the technical reasons behind your solution, but the general idea sounds good. So, I’ll be sure to stick around, Ana!
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A shot of humor this morning was just what I needed, Steve.
Thanks for sticking around!
PS When you use comment love, please stick to only one keyword; it looks a bit spammy otherwise.
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Well…the least I can say is ‘your strategy is awesome’. Giving away a big link is better than small links without effect. You’ve again proven it to me the reason why I should keep reading your blog. Your post are simply awesome!
Keep it rolling! I’m all ears.
Tim
Well, thank you, Tim.
I tried to find a solution to remaining Dofollow and I think this is it.
Ana
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