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Comment posted on Slugging It out: Why URL Is Important On-Site SEO Factor by Sean

Hey Susanna!

You are very welcome! :) As for the tips for keeps, I have more where that came from - haha! Happy slugging Susanna!

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  • Thanks DiTesco

    SEO Slugs is a plugin that I also use for all my blogs. It’s a very handy tool in weeding out unnecessary stop words from the URL Slug :)

  • Hey Mitch!

    It depends on your title. If you want to target a vertical keyword that is related to your title (but apparently you can’t put it in your title anymore) then you can put it in the slug :)

    That’s what I sometimes do.
    It gives me a + space on a keyword that I want the search engines to notice.

  • Hey Mitch!

    Perhaps you can better clarify your additional question to me? So I can better understand it?

    Thanks :D

  • Hey Sheila!

    Thanks! Looking forward to hearing from you there! :)

  • Hey Dan!

    Glad you agree with us on this! Will try to check your plugin for wordpress. Keyword winner is it? I wish you all the best for your launch buddy!

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Sunil Sheoran March 4, 2011 at 12:05 am

SEO Slugs is a great plugin for Title Slug Optimization! I use it on my website.
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Lani Kee January 22, 2011 at 9:13 pm

Aloha Ana, gosh I appreciate the clarification, I always wondered how slugs work. Thank God for women who don’t mind opening a can of jelly beans and making it all sweet for those of us, who find it sluggish to get started. Glad I came by and thanks for sharing! Mahalo, Lani :)

PS.. do me a favor, keep it going for those of us, who still need our hands held.:)
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madhav@windows 7 Gadgets January 18, 2011 at 10:23 pm

Hi Sean Si,

I just learned few days back the term about “Slug” when I joined this new job. Most of the sites are on wordpress. I am also wanna to some more info about SLUG this post is helps me. Thanks for the Plugin also. And yes it is one of the important factors of on-page. Search Engine gives importance to it.

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DiTesco January 18, 2011 at 11:41 am

Great advice Sean and indeed a very important on-site SEO technique. In my case, I sometimes forget about this so I have this handy plugin called “SEO Slugs” and it works pretty well, or at the very least it removes all those less important “stop words”. Anyway, and as I said, great advice for the proper use of “slugs” or URLs.. Thumbs up
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Sean January 23, 2011 at 7:48 pm

Thanks DiTesco

SEO Slugs is a plugin that I also use for all my blogs. It’s a very handy tool in weeding out unnecessary stop words from the URL Slug :)
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Sheila Atwood@newbielifeline.com November 27, 2010 at 11:42 am

Thanks Sean,

I now have a better understanding of my permalinks and have put this information into use.

Thanks Anna, Sean’s site is a great resource. I will be spending some time there, no doubt.
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Sean January 5, 2011 at 10:35 pm

Hey Sheila!

Thanks! Looking forward to hearing from you there! :)
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Dan Lew October 30, 2010 at 4:29 am

I couldn’t agree more with your post - that the url (permalink) along with the meta title of a post and the keywords in a headline are the real power in getting search engine traffic! The rest of the content in the blog post is relally the icing on the cake.

All the top bloggers are raving about a new Wordpress plugin which I just launched - Keyword Winner, it can help them do just that and what’s more it is all built into the Wordpress dashboard, as you post it suggests keywords based on competition, Google trends and monthly search volume using Google Insights. I highly recommend everyone uses it!
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Sean October 30, 2010 at 3:11 pm

Hey Dan!

Glad you agree with us on this! Will try to check your plugin for wordpress. Keyword winner is it? I wish you all the best for your launch buddy!
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Kimi October 28, 2010 at 3:33 pm

Hey Sean!

Awesome and clear post.

I noticed my old post (where i was really completeny a newbie on SEO), i had terrible URL slugs lol..

I am trying to apply it, although i always forgot to exclue the short words, like a, for, etc.

Will definitely look into it more.

Thanks for this awesome reminder.
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Sean October 28, 2010 at 6:34 pm

You’re welcome Kimi!

It’s never too late to change the slugs of your older posts :) but then you can also leave those behind and just focus on the new ones - either way, at least now you know how valuable this on-site factor is.
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Kimi October 28, 2010 at 10:17 pm

Sean,

If i change them, i guess i would loose some backlinks i have built to the post? and i have to wait for Google to reindex them again?

If yes, i guess i would leave them as it is. I have already tons redirect in my .htaccess =(

Thank you for the suggestion.
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Sean October 28, 2010 at 10:26 pm

Hey Kimi!

Not necessarily… I think Wordpress automatically redirects the old URL to the new one so you won’t be losing anything :) try it - try changing one of your old URLs to a new one and then type in the old URL in your browser - see what happens :)

But if you’re not using Wordpress - then I’m not so sure.

My pleasure Kimi!
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Mitchell Allen January 17, 2011 at 12:57 pm

Hi Sean,

Whew! One other reason to try to read through all the comments. I’m glad Kimi brought up the question I wanted to ask you.

Like Kimi, my oldest content has awful slugs. I started fixing them but then stopped, unsure of the impact it would have. Then I didn’t bother because, hello? that fluff is over four years old and probably needs to stay hidden. LOL

Anyway, going forward, I’ll try to be more diligent. But here is one additional question: since nobody sees the post until they click, couldn’t we save time by making slug-worthy post titles? It’s not always possible, but what are your thoughts on that?

Cheers,

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Sean January 17, 2011 at 5:16 pm

Hey Mitch!

Perhaps you can better clarify your additional question to me? So I can better understand it?

Thanks :D

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Mitchell Allen January 18, 2011 at 9:25 am

Hi Sean,

Let’s say I do a Google search on “Kinds of Keywords”. The results are as you have shown in the post. The slug appears to be “kinds-keywords-customer-defining-keywords”. That’s not a good title, of course.

However, suppose I do a Google search on “Colombian Coffee”. If you had a post that you initially titled Colombian Coffee, the default slug would be colombian-coffee. Therefore, you wouldn’t have to change it. :)

So, my question is, is this worth striving for, or is it an unnecessary process?

Cheers,

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Sean January 18, 2011 at 11:20 am

Hey Mitch!

It depends on your title. If you want to target a vertical keyword that is related to your title (but apparently you can’t put it in your title anymore) then you can put it in the slug :)

That’s what I sometimes do.
It gives me a + space on a keyword that I want the search engines to notice.
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Mitchell Allen January 18, 2011 at 8:20 pm

Thanks, Sean. I will attend to this :)

Cheers,

Mitch
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Dan Lew October 30, 2010 at 4:31 am

Hi Sean, I will second that, you did well with this post explaining, well done! :)
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Stacy@Grow With Stacy October 28, 2010 at 8:29 am

Thank you for this post, I am going to start using this, I had wondered how to change the slugs because I haven’t ever been happy with the slugs being “archives” followed by a number.

Thank you!
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Sean October 28, 2010 at 6:32 pm

You are very welcome Stacy!

I’m sure you’ll be surprised with the results of your new knowledge about slugs if you do apply it in your site. You can change it in your wordpress settings ->permalinks
Take away everything and just leave /%postname%/ as a custom structure slugs :)
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Stacy@Grow With Stacy October 29, 2010 at 10:24 am

Sean, thank you for taking the time to explain that to me! It wasn’t working for me for some reason (maybe my free theme?) so I may have to manually type in my post titles for a while.

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Sean October 29, 2010 at 12:37 pm

Hey Stacy!

Oh gosh! Really? No, even with a free theme it SHOULD work for you. But just in case, you should try it on perhaps the default theme and see if it works. After you’ve given time to troubleshoot it by trial and error, and if the problem REALLY IS THE THEME - then go change to Thesis theme (or Copyblogger’s Genesis theme for that matter) I highly recommend those for on-site SEO coding structure. :)
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Susanna Hess October 27, 2010 at 10:31 am

Hey Ana, thanks for sharing this great post of Sean’s!

Nice Sean, this post was easy to read, understand and start implementing right away.

Loved the “tips for keeps”. ;)

Thanks again!

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Sean October 27, 2010 at 4:29 pm

Hey Susanna!

You are very welcome! :) As for the tips for keeps, I have more where that came from - haha! Happy slugging Susanna!
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Mavis Nong @ Attraction Marketing Online October 27, 2010 at 6:12 am

Hey Ana & Sean,

Thanks for sharing this. I have been using this plugin for a while now and it’s great :)

All the best,
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Sean October 27, 2010 at 9:32 am

Hey Navis!

You are veeeeeeeeeeery welcome! :)
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Andrew @ Blogging Guide October 27, 2010 at 3:02 am

A simple yet powerful post! I do mind my slugs because of all the reasons stated above. I just wish that those not taking advantage of it would take the chance to read this post so they’ll know how much they’re missing out on.

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Sean October 27, 2010 at 9:31 am

Hey Andrew!

That’s great! Glad you’re mindful of your slugs. We have to share the info to people who don’t know how powerful their URL slugs are to both search engines and to people. I’ve visited your blog and I believe you’re one of the authorities when it comes to giving people blogging and SEO advice :) help me share the slug importance!
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Andrew @ Blogging Guide October 27, 2010 at 10:15 am

Sean

You are making me blush!

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Sean October 27, 2010 at 10:23 am

Hahaha!

Just like to be very truthful and generous in commending people :) and you definitely deserve it Andrew! Keep up the great work!
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Marcus Baker@network marketing Internet business October 26, 2010 at 5:45 pm

Hi Sean and Ana,

Really useful information and clearly and well presented. I have been using the SEO Slugs plug in for a while and it does an excellent job.

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Sean October 26, 2010 at 6:45 pm

Hey Marcus!

Thank you! Glad you’re having fun with the easy-to-use plugin! Keep on optimizing your slugs buddy!
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Steve@Lifestyle Design October 26, 2010 at 1:09 pm

Very important lessons on the URL slugs. I knew it was important, and knew I should be doing it, but I haven’t been. This has really given me a reason to take a round-turn on what I have been doing and try to do it right from here on out where it come to slugs.

Thanks for a great guest post Sean
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Sean October 26, 2010 at 6:44 pm

Hey Steve!

You are very welcome! I’m glad this made you think about optimizing your slugs from here on. I look forward to the changes in result of your slugging efforts!
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Oliver Tausend October 26, 2010 at 12:38 pm

Hi Ana and Sean,

I have been using this plugin for a while, it works really well. If I wanted to change some slugs, what would happen to the links that are already out there on the internet, including shortened links, for example bit.ly links ?

Thanks for sharing your insights.

Take care

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Sean October 26, 2010 at 6:34 pm

Hey Oliver!

If you change the URLs of your published articles what will happen is that Wordpress will keep the old URL and it will set the old one to redirect and point to the new one. So you don’t have to worry about your shortened links and the ones already out :) (that is, if you’re using Wordpress)
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Oliver Tausend October 26, 2010 at 10:57 pm

Hi Sean,

wow, that’s cool. Thanks again for your advice.

Take care

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Sean October 27, 2010 at 10:24 am

Hey Oliver!

My pleasure buddy! Anytime :)
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Amy Spreeman October 26, 2010 at 11:16 am

I like my creative titles better than the “20 best tricks” type of slug, but I did do this on my last blog post and it got a whole lot more traffic and retweets. Go figure!
Nice job, Sean!
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Sean October 26, 2010 at 6:32 pm

Thanks Amy!

Congratulations! That’s great news! So I’m sure you’re all set on doing it for all other succeeding entries you’re going to have :)
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Peter Fuller MBA October 26, 2010 at 10:33 am

Hey Sean

I have been slugging for quite awhile using the WordPress plugin and it generally works okay.

But I do try to take a look and may modify it if the url does not make sense.

So much to do so little time :)

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Sean October 26, 2010 at 6:30 pm

Hey Peter!

That’s great! Keep on doing what you’re doing and I’m sure you’ll find yourself cruising on search engine traffic in no time :)
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Andreas@Online Advertising October 26, 2010 at 7:27 am

The good news is that readable urls are not only useful for SEO purposes but also easier to read and remember for users than page urls including a long string of all kinds of random characters.

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Sean October 26, 2010 at 8:03 am

Yup! Very true Andreas :) Thank you for pointing that out
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Roy Scribner October 26, 2010 at 7:04 am

Good tips, Sean - this is something that I never bothered with, for years! It definitely pays to spend an extra minute, or two, on optimizing the URL of your post. I like the rule “titles are for humans, URLs are for search engines” :)

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Sean October 26, 2010 at 7:17 am

Hey Roy!

Soooooo glad that this entry was an eye-opener to you! And yes it definitely pays spending a MINUTE or TWO (which, is what compared to the results??). Know where to draw the line - all in all, URLs should be for humans too :) it’s just a matter of balance I guess
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Rob Franta@Success Coach and Mentor October 26, 2010 at 6:52 am

I enjoy looking at my tracking statistics and seeing how many different ways people find my blog posts. This is due to using the exact information you provided in this post. This works and helps SEO efforts more than you can imagine.
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Sean October 27, 2010 at 10:28 am

Thanks Rob!

Glad that your experience verifies my guest post here :) share it with the world buddy!
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Gloson October 26, 2010 at 3:00 am

Hey Sean!

Great post on snails… I mean slugs :)

I really agree with you. Slugs are a very important part of SEO. Too many times I see people not taking advantage of slugs by using the post id slug (.com/?p=123).

Oh dear! I’ve not been taking away the stop words in my slugs! Thanks for the heads up Sean!

Cheers!
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Sean October 27, 2010 at 10:26 am

Hey Gloson!

Hahaha! Yep yep - it’s sad to see ugly slugs. Search engines don’t like it, people don’t like it. And for what? In exchange for a minute or two of fixing it?
Better get to work on those stop words Gloson. You don’t want me telling you that it’s the reason why your competitor’s ahead of you by one rank! (That’ll suck - a lot)
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Michael B Wilbraham@Network Marketing Insights October 26, 2010 at 12:25 am

Thanks for this “heads up” Sean & Ana. I have been aware of the importance of this in SEO, but you know how it is, sometimes you forget to check that all is still working properly.

I’ll be focusing more on “taking note” of my blog’s slugs in the future.

Stay inspired!
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Sean October 26, 2010 at 12:39 am

Hey Michael!

It is our pleasure! Yeah we often forget the little details of SEO. We just have to be careful which ones - coz some are vital :) Glad it lit a bulb on your head Michael!
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Mike October 25, 2010 at 11:40 pm

Another tip I learned from the gurus about the SEO slug is remove the date, category, etc out from your slug and make it short and sweet. They say that it’s more easy for readers to remember and link to your content. Short slug also have an advantage of be shown full in the SERP. What do you think about it, Sean?
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Sean October 25, 2010 at 11:49 pm

Hey Mike!

Yes I definitely think that the shorter your URL slug is, the better. Remember that search engines love things organized, shorter, more concise and straight to the point. If your URL slug is laser focused on your keywords and content, you can be sure that you’ll be ranking higher than the one with a longer URL with dates and categories. :) glad you mentioned that one Mike
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Wayne Wu @ The Profitable Networker October 25, 2010 at 9:36 pm

Hello Sean,

Thanks for the great tip about “slugs”. I often see people still using the default WordPress permalink structure of ?postid=XXX, and I shake my head and think about how much they’re missing out.

I’ll check out the plugin in too. So thanks for that tip as well.

Take care,
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Sean October 25, 2010 at 10:10 pm

Hey Wayne!

Yep yep they surely are missing out - a whole lot! That’s exactly why I wrote this article. You’re very welcome! Do download it soonest! It’s a really easy-to-use plugin :)
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Rick LaPoint @ Internet Marketing October 25, 2010 at 5:45 pm

I’m not sure about the other WordPress themes, but I use Thesis and Headway which give me the ability to have an URL that is different from my Title, both being different from the Title Bar.

I often use one Title for people reading the page and a separate Title for people reading the SERP. The URL can be keyword only, strictly for the algorithm.

By the time I’m done I have no idea what I actually said anymore :-)

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Sean October 25, 2010 at 7:29 pm

Hey Rick!
That’s a good strategy! I also separate my from my post title. Although for the URL, I make it relevant to my coz it has to be consistent with the search result snippet that people will see in the SERPs.
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Heather C Stephens October 25, 2010 at 3:29 pm

Hi Ana!

Wonderful post and great reminder. I didn’t know about the seo slugs plugin, I’ll have to check that out. I know my slugs are probably a bit cluttered! I’ll add them to my blogging checklist!

Thank you for the awesome tip.

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Sean October 25, 2010 at 7:27 pm

Hey Heather!

It’s never too late to start optimizing your slugs now :) Try the seo slugs plugin - you’ve nothing to lose. Promise. :)
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Tristan October 25, 2010 at 10:11 am

Awesome, thanks for the tips!

Quick question: Is there a point where slugs become too long? Is there a character limit that you don’t want to exceed?
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Sean October 25, 2010 at 10:29 am

Hey Tristan!

You are very welcome! Hmm I don’t think that there will be a point where slugs will become too long
1. Coz you remove the stop words
2. Coz your keywords should be focused and concise
3. Usually your slugs are your title

My advice: Don’t pack in too much keywords on your slugs so as for it not to look too long :)
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Daniel Sharkov@Blogging Tips October 25, 2010 at 9:06 am

Hi Sean,

That was a good read! Thanks for sharing! I recently discovered that having the right URLs on your articles plays an important role when it comes to search engine rankings. Considering that I’m on the blogspot platform, modifying those is a tricky task and there are some limitations. Still a good level of optimization is possible. After performing it, I actually saw a good boost in traffic throughout the next few days.
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Sean October 25, 2010 at 9:17 am

Hey Daniel!

That’s great! Glad you now have a frist-hand experience on the importance of optimizing your slugs. It’s tiny little details on your on-site optimization that make a huge difference at times. On site optimization is highly neglected and overshadowed by linkbuilding and off-site optimization nowadays…
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Andy @ FirstFound October 25, 2010 at 7:22 am

Got it. Slugs, not snails.

I’m impressed you managed to avoid the subheader “Pull Out All the Stops” when you discuss stop words. I wouldn’t have been able to resist the pun!

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Sean October 25, 2010 at 9:20 am

Hey Andy!

Glad you got that all figured out haha!
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Alex@keyword optimization services October 25, 2010 at 7:03 am

Great post Sean,

I think this is too often overlooked, especially in the age of CMS platofrms that do it all for you.
I have always preached the importance of optimizing your permalinks for the right phrases. THis way you can write a clever title for the people (commentluv) but Google sees a VERY optimized title instead.

Nicely constructed post too I might add Sean
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Sean October 25, 2010 at 7:32 pm

Hey Alex!

Thanks! Thank you for your very kind words. And yes, these little details are often overlooked because people on the web just don’t have the time to fix every minute information on their website. Some people don’t realize that it’s tiny details like these that pump up your on site optimization.
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Devesh October 25, 2010 at 6:33 am

Hi Sean,

Nice Post. Very useful stuff.
I’m using seo slugs on one of my blogs and it’s really awesome.

Thanks for sharing this awesome post Sean!
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Sean October 25, 2010 at 7:33 pm

Hey Devesh!
Glad it’s working well for you :) You’re very welcome!
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Jym October 25, 2010 at 5:28 am

Hey Sean & Ana,

Nice post - It’s good to see a clear explanation of slugs and their importance. It amazes me to see so many URL’s with extra ‘and’s’ and ‘it’s’ in them…

A lazy way to deal with slugs, at least for wordpress users is Joost’s ‘SEO Slugs’ Plugin which will automatically take out the small words from your title…

Thanks Sean for the post, and Ana for the host =)
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Sean October 25, 2010 at 9:15 am

Hey Jym!

You are very welcome! Make sure to apply what you’ve learned here with your slugs! I usually just don’t leave it to my SEO slugs plugin - there are times that I really do edit my slugs just to make it look more attractive and user-friendly without taking away keyword presence.
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Jym October 25, 2010 at 7:32 pm

Cheers Sean =)

I already am and it’s true, it’s worth taking a bit more time to tailor the URL by hand. SEO Slugs will help but the tips you’ve presented here certainly provide the best option…

As an example, the slug for my post mentioned in the ComLuv along with this comment is .com/network-marketing-leads/ - the other words are superfluous.

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Sean October 25, 2010 at 7:44 pm

Yep yep!

It’s a win-win for you when you change the URL slugs, right?
You win in the search engines
You win with attracting people coz they see the relevance
For just a little more effort of changing it :)
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