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You know, Darrin - I do get a lot of spam links from certain IP addresses; one of these days, I’ll get mad enough to call my hosting company!One thing about Disqus - it’s a nofollow comment system, and I have a dofollow blog. So that doesn’t work too well. I am not sure about Intense Debate.Also, if you use the defaul tWP comment system, your comments can actually rank on Google as any other page on your blog would; not any other comment system though.AnaAna Hoffman also commented
- Hello Azizul,Good for you. Just continue with what you are doing.Keep it up,Ana
- You are exactly right, Rob - it doesn’t seem like the kind of thing that should take a priority.However, now that I’ve done all the research, there should be no excuses to not know the ill effects that can have on your blog.
Have a great Sunday. - Wow, video comments - the first one for me, quite honestly.Would be interesting to see if they come back!
- You are welcome, John.I thought it was important for my readers to know how to link to good site and stay away from spam; glad you agreed.Ana
- Hi Karen,I can imagine how frustrating that incident was and how you need to waste your time just to get rid of it and solve the problem. At least now you can be more careful with it.Carry on,Ana
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Hi Ana, thanks for the articles. I was not in clear about these two earlier until I did my own research like you did in your article. After I found out about the trackback (since I got a lot of those and deep down, I know there are spams), nowadays I mostly approved pingback.
I wrote about the difference in one of my blog post but in my local language. Since I found your article, I will link back to your post here for an English version. Thanks a lot.
Azizul´s last blog ..Jeep Travel System Weather Shield
Hello Azizul,
Good for you. Just continue with what you are doing.
Keep it up,
Ana
Hey Ana, appreciate the clarification on the trackbacks. It has always been one of those things you see but it never takes priority when it comes to researching what they really are. Thanks for taking the time to lay it out in a simple way.
Rob@Spokane Website Design´s last blog ..2 Print Design Samples For Various Use
You are exactly right, Rob - it doesn’t seem like the kind of thing that should take a priority.
However, now that I’ve done all the research, there should be no excuses to not know the ill effects that can have on your blog.
Have a great Sunday.
Hey Ana,
Great job explaining this! What is crazy…As back-linking software gets sophisticated trackback spam is going to increase.
Chat with you later…
Josh
Josh Garcia@Generate Free Leads´s last blog ..How to Write Blog Content For Profits
Hi Anna. I now know what a splog is. I was getting trackbacks in my comments and when I followed it I had an entire poem I had written on one of these sites. I commented to get it removed and it was never approved so I went to their web host and complained. They do come in very handy to find out who’s scraping your content.
Karen Cruz´s last blog ..Poetic Voices - New Online Community
Hi Karen,
I can imagine how frustrating that incident was and how you need to waste your time just to get rid of it and solve the problem. At least now you can be more careful with it.
Carry on,
Ana
You’re right. Wordpress makes the pingback procedure effortless since it is completed automated. I didn’t really have a clue to what trackbacks were but I have seen them numerous times around the web. T
hank you for the in-depth information on what trackbacks really are and how to use them properly. I have never used them before, but see how effective they could be.
John´s last blog ..Prevent Sweating
You are welcome, John.
I thought it was important for my readers to know how to link to good site and stay away from spam; glad you agreed.
Ana
The comment you made about when you start getting spam trackbacks was so funny: “Wow, they must really like me!”. That’s so true!
Susan@Home Workouts´s last blog ..Fitness Challenge Of The Week
Double-edged sword, huh?
Thanks for cheering me up this morning, Susan!
Wow, you did it again, Ana!
I’ll have to go through my blog and see what splog I’ve approved unknowingly. Thanks for the tip (and for adding ONE MORE thing to my to-do list!) LOL
Also thanks for all the visuals. They really helped me to understand!
Thanks!
Heather
Heather C Stephens´s last blog ..Find Local Leads for Your Network Marketing Internet Business
You are welcome, Heather - if you ever need something to do, just come to my blog and read a post or two!
Ana
Ana, thanks so much. Didn’t have the foggiest what the difference was… and to be honest will have to re-read it again just to let it sink in but you have done a great job explaining.
Jayne Kopp´s last blog ..Network MarketingThe Meaning & Benefits
Thanks, Jayne!
Just make sure you stay away from spam - the entire point of the post.
Ana
At one point, I was getting consistent spam from 1 specific IP adddress. I was so fed up I contacted my hosting company, Midphase, and told them directly to block & put up a firewall from that IP. It was some Russian based server & Russian base site with the same spammy links.
I actually just installed the Growmap plugin myself. But I still do use Akismet as well.
The one thing I wonder however, is choosing between a good and the right, or most efficient commenting system. I see a lot of bloggers using Disqus, but there are also IntenseDebate. I think Auttomatic needs to start taking commenting on their system more seriously though.
Darrin Kuykendall - Converting Non-Believers´s last blog ..Mission Review- Business Process Systemizing
You know, Darrin - I do get a lot of spam links from certain IP addresses; one of these days, I’ll get mad enough to call my hosting company!
One thing about Disqus - it’s a nofollow comment system, and I have a dofollow blog. So that doesn’t work too well. I am not sure about Intense Debate.
Also, if you use the defaul tWP comment system, your comments can actually rank on Google as any other page on your blog would; not any other comment system though.
Ana
Yeah, that’s a great point about Disqus being no-follow. I didn’t even think about that.
One feature I do kinda miss is from Seesmic — when they had the ability to video comments. I’m not sure if the plugin is still around anymore or has been updated to the latest versions. Video commenting may have not picked up that much in the past, but, the way things are moving towards more active engagement & focus on getting quality comments, it might be a something bigger int he future.
Darrin Kuykendall - Converting Non-Believers´s last blog ..Mission Review- Business Process Systemizing
Wow, video comments - the first one for me, quite honestly.
Would be interesting to see if they come back!
Hi Ana,
Great to have had the semantics sorted here. To be honest I have always discerned these by those that are useful which I like and those that have nothing at all to do with value for my blog. I have a tad more insight now after your explanation. Thank you.
~Marcus
Marcus Baker@network marketing Internet business´s last blog ..Banish Feeling Overwhelmed by De-cluttering Your Business
Hi, Marcus-
That’s what it comes down to - the value.
Whatever you call them, if they are generated from good blog and good discussions, they are always welcome.
It’s the other type I want readers to be aware of.
Good to see you!
Thanks for the information Ana - but I am not much wiser - I see pingbacks etc on my blogs - but don’t know how to do them - e.g. say to this blog of yours - bit thick I know! LOL
cheers
Pete
Hi Pete,
I’m sure by now you already have an idea how to recognize pingbacks and trackbacks.
Carry on,
Ana
“Home page doesn’t have comments, so those trackbacks have no way of showing up in their comment queue. That basically means they will most likely never know you linked to them.”
Ana, I made this mistake for several months! you have done a good job explaining this! Now you being on WP, if a Blogger platform links to you in a post are you notified?
Lisa´s last blog ..4 Tips to Build Your TwitShips
No, pingbacks only work within Wordpress platform.
I think you will have to manually add a trackback in that case; I am not familiar with Blogger.com, but Wordpress has such an option.
Thanks for reading, Lisa!
As far as I have worked with trackbacks, not in all cases a trackback required a link back from my sites. So as long as I dont need to link back to a trackback this would be ok for me. The SEO value of these spam trackbacks are usually zero anyway but they may send a visitor or 2 in their lifetime, who knows.
Hmm, I’ve never seen a trackback that didn’t require a link.
By the way, just because you don’t display it on your blog, Andreas, doesn’t mean that it’s not on the other blog any longer.
They still link to you (and yes, might occasionally send you a visitor), you just don’t link to them.
Ana
I would recommend linking to a post on their blog that has some relevance, at least, to the post your are linking from. And if I have to leave a good impression, I would make sure the link is never nofollowed.
Pulkit Gera´s last blog ..All about domain names
Good suggestion, Pulkit.
In cases, I can’t find/don’t have time to find a relevant post, I simply trackback to the latest post.
Anything is better that the home page.
Ana
Thanks Ana for an easy to understand explanation of this topic. I am learning so much by visiting experienced bloggers sites like yours. So far are all my trackbacks have been genuine but now I will know if any are not. Thanks so much for sharing this Ana. Much appreciated.
Patricia Perth Australia
Patricia@lavenderuses´s last blog ..Lavender Products Galore-Must Be Party Time
You are welcome, Particia.
As your blog grows, you will start getting more and more of spam trackbacks.
I used to get up to a thousand plus of them per day!
Now I am officially spam-free.
Ana,
.
You must be bored of seeing me here today lol! But it’s not my fault you whip out good and useful content that keeps me coming back for more
This is an exceptional explanation. Thank you for making it so easy to read and idiot proof
- and for including so many examples. Like you said, sometimes we think we know what they are. It seems I had a lot more to learn on the topic.
I have a Question for you if you don’t mind.
How do you get your pingbacks to look all nice and neat like that? I mean with just the title and without all the added html and so forth. Mine don’t look very pretty
. Do I need to install something or just tweak the settings somewhere?
Thanks again for this very efficient and helpful tutorial.
PS - Seeing the kind of super blogger gal that Tia is, I’m sure she’ll be here in no time lol
Cheers
Ingrid Abboud´s last blog ..17 Things About Me- If You’re Curious to Know – My Special Bday Post!
I took a look at your trackbacks, Ingrid, and my educated guess is it’s because you are using Disqus comment system.
I used to use it on my blog as well, but dropped it after a while; mostly because it’s a nofollow system and I wanted to keep my blog dofollow, but also because of the looks.
Love seeing you here; are you kidding me?
Ana
Ana,
Thanks so much for taking the time to check that out for me. I absolutely want to be a DoFollow blog. I’m embarrassed to say that I actually thought it already was
!
As for Disqus - although I switched to it from IntenseDebate several months ago and I seemed to like it - I think I will be switching again very soon (I mean now) to CommentLuv. I think readers can also benefit from this much more and I love the engaging community.
I think Patricia from Lavenderuses will also be happy to hear that lol
.
Now all I need to do is not screw up and lose all my comments in the transfer process! Cause I lost a couple here and there when switching the second time.
PS - Love the fact that you love seeing me here
. Cause you know I’ll be back!
Cheers
Ingrid Abboud´s last blog ..13 Sweet Looking Sites Powered by Headway but Mainly Me Rambling About Headway
Nice tutorial Ana
Pingbacks and trackbacks are very similar protocols except pingbacks confirm that the link on the other site automatically.
Peter
Peter Fuller MBA´s last blog ..What I love about Network Marketing as a Home Business Solution
Hi Peter,
Thanks for the additional input on this.
Have a great day,
Ana
Hi Ana,
thanks for this in-depth explanation. I feel like understanding it for the very first time, especially the lesson from it. So I will have to look a little bit closer at the pingbacks I get.
Really good job.
Take care
Oliver
Oliver Tausend´s last blog ..Oliver Tausend’s Blog- Thanks To Top Commentators In October
Hi Oliver,
Nice to see you. I’m glad you feel that way, I am really hoping to explain it clearly.
Thanks for coming,
Ana
Hi Ana,
thanks for your reply. I deleted some pingbacks I recently got right away ! Thanks again for shring.
Take care
Oliver
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